This is an attempt to document all of Benotto’s pre 1985 models. I need your help, if you have a photo of a Benotto and know the year/model please send it to me or share a link to it in the comment section. That will really help out the community.
About 10 years ago I was lucky enough to pickup a Benotto of my own at a local garage sale. Having ridden many local hills and windy roads on this beautiful vintage frame I have personally experienced the esteem and fondness that Benotto owners and admirers have for these bikes. Benotto is a true Italian classic. The only problem is that there is very little information about them online. So this is an incomplete list at best, but hopefully it will help you learn more about your bicycle.
If you have any question, ask me in the comments below and I will try my best to answer them.
1931 Bicicletas Benotto was established by 24 year old Giacinto Benotto
1952-55 Benotto Grazie Paolo
1952-55 Benotto Cambio Corsa
1970s Benotto Modelo 800
1970s Benotto Modelo 2500
1970s Benotto Modelo 2700 Pista
This was Francesco Moser’s training bike
1976 Benotto Modelo 2700
Late 1970s Benotto Modelo 2700
“A proven design built with rigidity and swift power transmission in mind. Hand built with Columbus SL tubing, utilizing fancy cut lugs, crown, bottom bracket and joined at low temperature with silver/bronze solder for optimum strength.
Frame: Columbus SL tubing. Investment cast lugs and bottom bracket low temperature silver/bronze joined. Campagnolo rear track ends beveled and chromed.
Fork: Columbus SL oval blades with chromed Campagnolo ends.
Bar & Stem: TTT track special dural or Cinelli.
Saddle: Cinelli Buffalo No.3.
Campagnolo Record Track Group: Chainwheel set 1/2X X 1/8, black super light track pedals, headset, rear cog, seat post and hubs 36degrees, rear cog 13-14-15 or 16 teeth.
Chain: Regina, 1/2 X 1/8.
Rims: Nisi, track professional 36 degrees.
Spokes: Stella, double butted, stainless steel.
Tubulars: Clement No.3.
Toe Clips: Christophe.
Straps: Binda extra.
Tape & Plugs: Benotto professional.
Sizes: 50, 53, 56, 57 and 59 cms.
Color: Benotto Team Professional Nickel Beige.
Net Weight: 18lbs. 7oz (8.500 Kgs).
Late 1970s Benotto Modelo 3000
Model 3000 Campione D’Italia. This was the model ridden by Francesco Moser and includes the Columbus SL Tubing
“A classic Italian racing racing masterpiece. Built from Columbus SL tubing by a master craftsman using investment cast lugs, bottom bracket, fork crown and joined with low temperature silver/bronze solder to maintain frame strength, while diamond chain stays maintain a rigid rear triangle.”
“This is the bicycle of Francesco Moser, Champion of Italy and Captain of the Sanson/Benotto team.”
Frame: Columbus SL tubing. Investment cast lugs and bottom bracket with Campagnolo micro-adjusting drop outs, braze on cable and derailleur guides.
Fork: Investment cast with helical steering column and fork blade stiffeners.
Bar & Stem: Cinelli alloy with extension No. 1 Record.
Saddle: Cinelli Buffalo No. 3
Freewheel: Regina Titanium 6 speed.
Chain: Regina Oro, perforated.
Campagnolo Super Record Group: Double chainwheel set, pedals with titanium axle, rear derailleur, brakes, headset, fluted septets, front changer and hubs.
Rims: Nisi Professional Dural, 36degree
Spokes: Stella double butted, stainless steel.
Tubulars: Clement criterium silk.
Toe Clips: Christophe SL.
Straps: Binda extra.
Color: Benoto Team Professional Nickel Beige.
Tape & Plugs: Benotto professional.
Sizes: 50, 53, 55, 56, 57, 58.5, and 60cms
Net Weight: 19.5lbs (9.000kgs)
1978-82 Benotto Modelo 3000
Campagnolo Super Record throughout.
Cinelli Giro D’ Italia bars on Cinelli stem.
Mavic MA40 rims.
In 1977 Moser won the San Cristobal Venezuela World Championship. Post-1977 Modelo 3000 bikes come with a sticker under the seat tube that reads “1977 San Cristobal Venezuela”.
Differences between the years can be seen in the chain guides beneath the bottom bracket (BB). In 1979 the chain guides were brazed onto to the BB, while in 1981 the chain guides were cast into the bottom of the BB.
1979 Benotto Modelo 3000
1980-82 Benotto Modelo 2000
1980s Benotto Cromor
Campagnolo chorus groupset including monoplaner brake calipers
1983 Benotto Modelo 850
Ishiwata 019 tubing
1983/84 Benotto Modelo 850
Frame: Benotto Modelo 850 Paris-Roubaix (stamped R6819 on the bottom bracket) – 59,5 cm C-T
Crankset/Bottom Bracket: SR
Derailleurs/Shifters: Suntour Vx / Suntour
Handlebars/Stem: Sakae Custom Road Champion / SR with Benotto pantograph
Saddle/Seatpost: Corsaire 313 San Marco (NOS) / SR Laprade
Brakes: Benotto brakes with Dia-Compe Cherry with CLB brake lever hoods
1984 Benotto Modelo 850
Columbus Zeta tubing was used in 1984-1986. Prior to that Ishiwata 019 was used.
The 1984 model originally came with SunTour Vx derailleurs, SR crankset, Cherry brakes and Miche hubs laced to Ambrosio Elite rims. Interestingly, the frame was also available with optional, Tange #1 tubing for $50 extra!
The 1985 model used Campagnolo 980 derailleurs, Nervar crankset, Modolo Corsa brakes and the Ambrosio Elite rims.
The 1986 model used Campagnolo 980 derailleurs, SR crankset, Modolo Flash brakes and Miche hubs laced to Nisi tubular rims.
1984 Benotto Modelo 5000
1985 Benotto 3000
1985 Benotto 800, Image courtesy of Michael
For more information about the story behind these bikes you can find the history of Benotto here.
181 replies on “Benotto Classic – a growing list of Benotto Bicycles from 1931-1985”
Hi, friend!!! I have a question with my benotto. I don’t know what model it is? Since mine does not have the diamond type chain stays, but she has the ends where she grips the wheel, Campagnolo has them, she has a heart that I have not seen on the internet on any bicycle. Since she has the cables on top, also where the rear brake is placed is different than all the models I’ve seen. I have spoken with an insider and there is a lot of controversy with these benotto bikes. Might you help me? Give me your email and I’ll send you photos. Thanks in advance ; )
I’ll send you an email, and we’ll figure it out.
I’ll get a better photo, but here is the custom paint job on my early 90’s Benotto 3000. I bought it at Domenic’s Cycling in Tempe, Arizona around 1994. I still have the entire bike, but the drive side dropout suffered metal fatigue and needs to be repaired. I would welcome suggestions on how to get this safely repaired.
Hi thanks for sharing. That link is not working for me. Can you check it? And maybe share another one. Thanks
great page you’ve built. my question concerns a frame set represented as being Modelo 2500 from the “60’s”. it won’t be here for about a week so certain details like rear drop out spacing or seat tube diameter won’t be available until then. the top tube is marked 3000 but the seller indicates that the decal is on top of the paint and not clear coated over. I can’t find another example where the BENOTTO panel only appears on the seat tube. I also find it curious that the down tube appears to have braze ons for a water bottle cage. BB is stamped 854. I have a handful more pix if that will help.
your time and insight are greatly appreciated.
This does look like a Benotto frame. And I agree, the decals do appear to be backwards. Perhaps they were replaced at a later date.
To me, this looks like the frame is from the mid to late 70s, not the 60s. I would agree that it is a Modelo 2500. Benotto didn’t make the Modelo 3000 until the early 1970s. So it’s still possible. The way to confirm is to measure the diameter of the inside of the downtube. If it’s 27.2 then it’s a Modelo 2500.
Looking forward to what you find.
the seller represented the frame set as built by Giuseppe Pela. the seat stay tops are one of Pela’s signature touches.
no braze ons with the exception of water bottle cage.
rear spacing = 120mm
metal head tube badge. do you have a feel for when these were deleted or changed to a decal ?
Hello, I can’t determine the date and name of this benotto, here is a link with photos, thank you very much
Shimano 600 arabesque front and rear derailleur, benotto is written on the crankset, serial number 34 56
Thanks for your great photos. This bike reminds me of the 1984 German Benotto catelogue. The Shimano 600 was first introduced in 1983, which puts this at the right time. To confirm the model, can you measure the size of the seat post? Looks like a great bike
Could you help me to identify this Benotto bike ?
What model year is it ?
I would like to put it back in the same configuration as orignal.
I miss the wheels.
Hi Gilles, that’s a beautiful bike. A Benotto 3000. You can see it has the diamond chain stays. The campagnolo rear wheel holders. The Columbus frame.
As for year, it has the brazed on guides. So early 80s.
HOLA YO NACI EN CIUDAD MEXICO Y SOY AFICIONADO AL CICLISMO DESDE LOS 18AÑOS Y CONOSCO Y CONOCI MUCHA GENTE DE BENOTO TENGO BICICLETAS DE PISTA Y AGULAS DE TACHIRA Y MODEL 5000 TUBERIA SLX… Y MUY BUEN ARTICULO DE BENOTTO PERO SOLO ES UNA 1/4 PARTE DE LA HISTORIA
Q SE QUIEBRA EL BOTTOM BRACKET …FUE INFUNDADO EN USA …
SI TAL VEZ TUVIERON ERRORES …PERO NO TODOS LOS CUADROS
EL SEÑOR BENOTTO FABRICO TODOS CUADROS EN CIUDAD DE MEXICO ….AQUI ESTA LA SORPRESA …NO RECUERDO SU NOMBRE ..PERO SU APELLIDO ES RAMOS…CUADROS RAMOS (NOMBRE DE LA COMPAÑIA)
AL IGUAL Q BIANCHI NO EXISTEN RECORDS DE CUANDO DONDE O COLORES DE FABRICACION ..
COMO DATO CURIOSO…SABIAN Q EL SEÑOR BENOTTO USABA SU BICI CON LAS PALANCAS DE FRENO ALREVES (PALANCA DERECHA PARA FRENO DE ADELANTE Y IZQUIERDA PARA EL DE ATRAS)
Hi Adolfo, thank you for your comment. Greatly appreciate it. I had to use Google Translate to understand what you’re saying.
As Translated: “HELLO I WAS BORN IN MEXICO CITY AND I HAVE BEEN A FAN OF CYCLING SINCE I WAS 18 YEARS OLD AND I KNOW AND KNEW A LOT OF PEOPLE FROM BENOTO I HAVE TRACK BICYCLES AND NEEDLES FROM TACHIRA AND MODEL 5000 TUBERIA SLX… AND A VERY GOOD ARTICLE FROM BENOTTO BUT IT IS ONLY 1/4 PART OF HISTORY
Q THE BOTTOM BRACKET BREAKS… IT WAS UNFOUNDED IN THE USA…
YES MAYBE THEY HAD ERRORS… BUT NOT ALL THE FRAMES
MR. BENOTTO MANUFACTURED ALL FRAMES IN MEXICO CITY….HERE IS THE SURPRISE…I DON’T REMEMBER HIS NAME…BUT HIS LAST NAME IS RAMOS…CUADROS RAMOS (NAME OF THE COMPANY)
JUST LIKE BIANCHI THERE ARE NO RECORDS OF WHEN, WHERE OR MANUFACTURING COLORS..
AS A CURIOUS FACT…DID YOU KNOW THAT MR. BENOTTO USED HIS BIKE WITH THE BRAKE LEVERS BACKWARDS (RIGHT LEVER FOR FORWARD BRAKE AND LEFT FOR BACK)”
In regards to the bottom bracket issue. Yes, not all frames were effected. The good news is that all Benotto frames of that era were steel, meaning that if it’s been ridden for the last 30 years without cracking it will continue to last for a lifetime to come. You can ride it with confidence.
The issue must be very rare. In fact I have seen only 1 bike with that issue (or heard of). Perhaps more of an urban legend. It’s also easy to fix. So if one does happen to come across a bike with a cracked brazed joint, you simply take the frame to any local welder and they can access the bottom bracket by removing the crankset. Very simple.
I believe it’s common for the brakes to be reversed in Europe.
Can you elaborate on your surprising story about Ramos?
All the best
Hello, thanks for your post, awesome info, more because I’m from Mexico and I remember saw that those bikes with some of my fellow riders, got one question, after Moser won the WC in Venezuela, is it true that bike named “Aguila del Táchira” in México? Thanks.
Hi Martin, thanks for your comment. Yes, I believe that’s true. From what I understand the “Aguila del Táchira” was made by Jaime Garza who worked for Benotto in Mexico.
Someone reading this may be able to confirm this.
can I ask to determine the year of manufacture of this bike?
I forgot the link:
Hi Ondřej, it’s a bit tough to be exact from the photo. But the three stripes on the side are a design from 1985 and later. So possibly 1985 or 1986.
Do you have a copy of the 1976 World Pursuit Champion poster? I’d love to get my hands on one.
Hi Robert, I too would love a copy of that. No sadly I do not.
My Modelo 2000 has 3t handlebars embossed with the 1976 Montreal Olympics logo.
All Campagnolo GS, and Brooks saddle. I bought it in 1977. Would love to give it a good home
Hi Mark, sounds amazing. A real classic
When I was 16 i bought a benotto Jantzen Project. I took part in some races with it…
When I was 19, I made the driving licence for Motor Bikes, so the benotto hangs in the Garage of my parents till last year. A colluege helped me to restore it. In the last year I change some parts..I would Like to Share some Pics here, but I don’t know how it works…
I Love the bike and in Summer I rode around the Balaton in hungary (more Thema 200 km) with it…
Hi Frank, very cool. Share any links you would like here to photos. Would love to see your bike.
Hi Johnathon . I’m hoping you can help. I have in my possession my llate husbands pride and joy was this Benotto. I believe it’s a 1983 850 but I am not sure. I would love to know more about it. This bike never spent a night outside. I’m happy to share pictures. It a beautiful cherry red.
Hi Jenn, do you have a link to share with photos of the bike?
Can you please send me an email address I can invite you to a photo album
Hoping to figure out the frame size and where it is was made. I measured from the center of the crank to the seat post is this correct?
Time for this bike to go to a home where it will be loved and rode. My late husband loved this bike.
I hope this works for photos. I’m anxious to learn anything about my late husbands prized bike as it’s time to go to a home where it will be loved and used like it’s meant to be.
Where would it have been made and how do I determine the size. I measured from center of crank to seat post. My hubby wasn’t a tall guy so would 20 inches be accurate?
Hi Jonathan, thanks for the great Benotto page. I have owned a aero 5000 since buying it in a local bike shop in New Orleans in 1984. It is a fine bike with a short wheelbase and great ride. I continue to ride it and it could use a paintjob but not sure whom I could trust to honor the original with multiple pantographs and the colorful Benotto logo on the front. Here’s shot of this bike in the last few years. https://www.flickr.com/gp/[email protected]/L8Z1J3. I’d love to hear more about these unusual early aero approaches.
do you know something about this bike?
it has Thuret parts on it and the owner says it is pre 1980.
Hi B.O, that looks like a nice bike. It’s a Benotto 3000, you can tell by the diamond shaped chain stays. What I haven’t determined is the year. I’m not familiar with the Benotto decals. Will do a bit of research and look at it a bit closer to tell you more. jumping on Zwift right now.
It has the Huret Jubilee derailleur which is dated 1972- mid 70s. It also has Shimano 600 components and Zeus. So it’s a bit of a mismatch.
The Columbus Tubing Decal is from 1978. I would use this decal to date the bike somewhere around 1978/79. Likely 1979 because of the Benotto logo decal design.
Pure conjecture, but possibly this bike has been raced? The components look like they were replaced at some point and the hub shows sign of wear from maintenance.
Thank you for posting it here.
Me puedes ayudar en dar información sobre mi bicicleta ya que no encuentro información de ella por ningún lado
Hi Ulises, possibly. Do you have photos to share? Or a description of your bike
hi, is there any latest model for Benotto?
Found this site as I’ve decided to put my dear Benotto back on the road. I bought brand-new-off-the-wall at Marina del Rey Bicycles in Los Angeles 1978. Being young, I had them strip and sell me just the frame/fork which they did. Put Galli and OMAS titanium bits on it with Suntour Superbe group and Cinelli bars. Went all over Angeles Crest Hiway and North L.A. county, was always in love with its good manners and smooth ride. It is original gold color/chrome fork, came with black Benotto decals. Has Campy dropouts, chain stay braze-on is above tube, BB braze-on is above, and chain-stays are not diamond x-section. Almost bought a MASI instead. A gold-plated Colnago was next to it on the wall but I was a F. Moser fan. It survived side impact on pedal from ’70s car steel bumper.
Hi M R Hoeh, that’s incredible that you still have it. Fellow F. Moser fan here and glad it survived the side impact.
Hi Jonathan. A great article! Thanks so much. I’ve been reading a lot of your stuff on Benottos. Super interesting.
I was wondering if you might help identify mine please? I got a Benotto recently. I was a bit dubious as the re-spray isn’t amazing. It’s also got a Benotto stamp on the seat stay shoulder that I’ve never seen – the letters go down (one below the other) as opposed to left to right.. if that makes sense. There are no markings on the rear dropouts. The chain stays aren’t diamond shaped. The main tubes aren’t perfectly cylindrical – they’re narrow. And even more confusingly, there’s a Cinelli stamp by the bottom bracket cut out. Any ideas? There are some photos on this link. Didn’t know how to attach them https://we.tl/t-PU5sFUKwaq Would really appreciate your help!!!!!
Hi Ali, this bicycle is a newer model than what I’m familiar with. The cable runs through the top tube which tells me that. It’s probably a Benotto with a Cinelli bottom bracket and benotto front forks. I’ve never seen the letters one below the other either. I like the look of your bike. Curious, anyone reading this recognize this bike?
I have bought a Benotto today, and I really would like to know more about it.
I hope that “I” under the bottom bracket means mande in Italy.
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Hi Joao, I am not familiar with this frame so I had to do a bit of research.
Here’s what I know:
1. It’s a Benotto
2. Rear derailleur cable guide is brazed on the bottom. So older than 1979
3. The round chain stays rule out a Benotto 3000 or 5000
4. The internal routing was available on the 5000 during the early 80s, but given the round stays see #3 I would suspect this is a late 80s early 90s model.
5. The components place it as an early 90s. But I prefer dating a bike by the frame.
Everything stylistically is throwing me off on this bike. It’s very unlikely that a late 80s bike was made in Italy. Not impossible, but improbable. But as you say there is evidence of this.
Here’s what’s confusing
1. It looks like the number 80 is stamped on the BB, that would indicate 1980 frame. However it may be a 90. Which would make more sense.
2. The fishnet color was released in the late 80s I understand from research
3. The I cutout in the BB. As you say, is often indicative of an Italian build.
4. The internal routing plus the round stays.
Perhaps another reader has more information on this. But from what I can tell I would say this is a late 80s early 90s Benotto. Not sure on the model. It’s beautiful and has nice features.
I’m thankful to have found this because I think I have the same frameset.
I under the BB shell indicates Italian just like the Columbus sticker on the top tube. Columbus “Matrix” (aka Cromor) acts like a timestamp, correct? I’ve read that Matrix didn’t stick around for very long as a name before being renamed. The Gipiemme dropouts make me wonder, too.
Any clues? Hope this helps.
Love the look of your bike. Yes, you can use the Columbus “Matrix” tubing as a timestamp. Which places your frame around the late 90s. It’s not made in Italy, not that it matters. Benotto had moved all bike building to Mexico by 1985. But Benotto was making bikes in Mexico as early as the 1950s. There are a couple years 1983/84 where some frames are reported with issues. Other than that, there isn’t a difference as these were all hand crafted by talented frame builders using the same excellent geometry and same tubing.
I have a Benotto Modelo 2000. All fittings are Campagnolo GS. Handlebars bear Benotto Olympic logo 1976. I bought it in Toronto in 1978. I put a Brooks saddle on it a long time ago. (Decals are peeling). I would sell it to a loving owner.
Hi Mark, awesome that sounds like a beauty. Would love to know more about your story. What was it about the bike that brought you to buy it?
I was moving up from a Sekine. So, I was shopping for a top quality bike. I did some careful shopping and when I found the Benotto I knew I had found a winner.
I friend of mine had a Dawes Galaxy that was stolen. So after I bought the Benotto he went out and bought a Marinoni.
Over several years we rode all over southern and eastern Ontario.
I was moving up from a Sekine. So, I was shopping for a top quality bike. I did some careful shopping and when I found the Benotto I knew I had found a winner.
I friend of mine had a Dawes Galaxy that was stolen. So after I bought the Benotto he went out and bought a Marinoni.
Over several years we rode all over southern and eastern Ontario.
je me pretente mr Sanvicente charles passionnés de vélo depuis tout petit,le virus est venue a l occasion de tour de france ou je travaillé dans le tour a vendre des casquette et nougat ,ou a cette occasion j ai pu connaitre Eddy Merckx ,on était dans les voitures officiel devant les courses -depuis j ai bien acquis bien de nombre de vélo parmis les meilleurs colnago cristal acier cyclex colnago tecnos acier nivacrom columbus et aujourd hui mon titane colnago –
j ai de même un vélo vintage bertetto pantographié Eddy Merckx acier Excell –
a ce jrs j ai un nouveau compagnon un Benotto a restauré ,un cadre exceptionnel léger acier ,je pense un SL ,épaisseur 2,1 mm poid du cadre nu 1900g pantographié benoto sur le tube horizontal patte arriére campa pantographié benotto – boite pas italien 36/24 campa
fourche chrome benoto ,ce que je pense exceptionnel pour le passage de gaine sur le tube horizontale est en cuivre pour les buttées -nu sous le boitier B4 voila a peu pret tout dans l ensemble a mes connaissances-
j ai rencontré ce site bonetto bien riche ,ou je n ai pas pu reconnaître mon vélo ,vélo d exception comme tout les BENOTTO ?il faut du=ire que je reste cluoé ,achaque fois pour admirer c ette véritable oeuvre dart comme tous les bénotto ,aidez moi svp a donner sa dates de naissance si vous savez merci de votre attention charles
j aimerais envoyé quelques photo de mon benotto en cour de restauration ,mais comment faire?merci
Hi Charles, awesome. Just include a link to the photos in a comment and any information you have on it. Year, story, etc.
here is one, I could forward others thank you
Hi Charles, incredible. What a cool story. I’ll translate a little for other readers here. Looking forward to seeing photos of your bike.
more pending more info thank you
Paraphrased, “My name is Mr. Charles San Vicente. I worked at the Tour de France selling caps and nougat. Where I had the occasion to get to know Eddy Merckx. Since then I’ve collected many bikes. Among the best Colnago steel bikes and a vintage Bertetto pantographed Eddy Merckx. And now a new companion, a Benotto. I must admire this real work of art. Please help me identify the date. Thank you.”
bjrs merci a vous, je vais voir ce que je peux faire pour les photos, non je ne suis pas sur un SL ma tige de selle est de 26,2 mm, j ai un pas italiens en 36/24/70, je n ai pas de pantographe bentto tombante al arriére, j ai une patte a braser pour le dérailleur avt, cordialement merci charles
bjrs merci a vous ,je vais voir ce que je peux faire pour les photos,non je ne suis pas sur a un SL ma tige de selle est de 26.2 mm ,j ai un pas italiens en 36/24/70 ,je n ai pas de pantographe bentto tombante a l arriére ,j ai une patte a braser pour le dérailleur avt ,cordialement merci charles
info B4 written under the case
Hi Charles, based on the Benotto chrome fork and what you suspect to be SL tubing your Benotto is a Modelo 2500 or Modelo 3000. If the seat stays are diamond shaped then it will be a 3000. Otherwise it’s a 2500. Also, what is the pantograph on the rear drops?
bjrs thank you to you, I will see what I can do for the photos, no I am not on an SL my seat post is 26.2 mm, I have a not Italian in 36/24/70, I don’t I don’t have a bentto pantograph hanging down on the rear, I have a braze-on for the front derailleur, cordially thank you charles
(I have the aubans in chrome diamond shapes, a number under the box B4 forche chrpme pantographed benotto -pivot diameter 22 mm- weight of the bare frame around 1900g-fork 850 g, I did the best overall thank you Jonhatan
désolé pour les fautes d inattention https://photos.app.goo.gl/MpfjTQ4NYd6xL96c7
salut Jonathan pour info , ce que j ai pu récupérer sut le net différente épaisseur de l acier columbus exct ,apres avoir peser mon cadre benotto nu pour le poids autour de 1900g ,je peux conclure et plus de doutes que c est bien un columbus SL ce qui est noté sur la fiche ,que je vous transmets pour ,je suis fier de mon benotto ,merci de votre aide cordialement Charles
Hi Charles, thanks for the photos. I’m not an expert with this model in particular. If the seat post is 26.2 then the tubing must be double-butted steel or straight gauge moly steel. It has the Benotto emblem on the side of the top tube which is interesting. It has Benotto dropouts and Benotto forks which I’ve always liked. And your bike looks really nice. It poses more questions than answers.
salut Jonathan merci bcp, c est exactement cela comme vous le pensez tige de selle 26.2 double renforts mais au milieu raisonne ,donc plus fin sur le centre des tubes acier molybdène cr-mo en dessous j ai gratté la peinture tout chrome comme sur les pattes et fourche-, et je pense pour l année serait des années 85-90 pour sa patte soudé sur le tube vertical pour adapter le dérailleur patte a braser-je crois dans l ensemble tout est fait ,mais reste encore plus de questions que de réponses ,mais dans la mangeur partie des réponses ont étaient données grace a vous ,pour moi aujourd’hui cela me suffit on a bien avançés pour ce que était par rapport aux jrs précédant .dans l attente je vais éssayer de me débrouiller au mieux a dénicher les pièces manquantes pour le remettre sur pieds ,je n hésiterais pas en vous en faire part ,et au reste de votre communauté encore merci Jonathan a bientôt Charles
hi Jonathan, sorry for the delay not easy to analyze for the details on the site, so before answering I preferred to learn a little more thanks to you – on this occasion I was able to navigate on your site especially for the Benotto biclous , great in detail, I don’t think that should be easy, I couldn’t see anything better on the web concerning the benotto ebaye bike barter bike well, not much. I got to know this splendid Bénotto a little better on your site, articles, beautiful photos, I will try to do the best once my bike has been restored, which I would gladly share with your community –
so as for my benotto you think of a 1, 2500 or 3000 for the exact diamond shrouds for the diamond shaped shrouds for mine so it would approximate best as you think the 3000 but what i I was able to see on the benotto 3000, I noticed that the 3000 had the front derailleurs with a collar that mine is a braze-on collar, so I don’t know more – for the SL for now frankly I don’t know more , I weighed it bare frame 1900g its 850 g fork can be an indication of more its seat tube 26.2 here I don’t know more – while waiting before continuing the reassembly as you could see, there are no sstickers, So I ordered pending that I hope to receive it as soon as possible, I have already been patient for 12 days so can I be tomorrow I hope? here is for the news while waiting for others see you Jonhatan again thank you
bjrs Jonathan avt le remontage ,j ai reçue mes stickers ,voici quelques photos comme promis ,je vous laisse apprécier cdlt Charles
salut Jonathan pour info je laisse tombé la restauration ,je craque trop de piéces campa manquante que je ne dispose pas ,je laisse la place a un autre ,donc conclusion apres réflexion et pas d autres choix de le mettre en vente ,ce qui est fait avec regrets voila adieu mon benotto , fin d un rêve inachevé- j aurais appris par le bias de votre site appris connaitre dans le détails ces merveilleux benotto exceptionnel -merci a vous Jonathan ,bonne continuation cordialement Charles
This looks really good with the stickers.
merci de votre appreciation Jonathan pour les stikers pour l esthétique c est un plus ,qui ne changera pas son acier pur Sl benotto 300 au losange en forme de diamant construit par DE ROSA –
finalement je vais le garder mon benotto ,je n aurais certainement pas l occasion d en quérir un deuxième comme celui ci des oeuvres d arts ne court pas les rues ,je prendrais mon temps merci
thanks for this wonderful site ! This weekend I will buy a Benotto modelo 800 in near mint condition. If you like I can post or send a fwe photos after first cleaning !
Kind regards from germany, Michael
Hi Michael, would love that. Thanks will add them here.
Hello Jonathan, I wll try to post a pic here….
Kind regards, Michael
That’s a beauty
Thanks for the article, really great job and keep it up!
Was wondering if you got help me out figure out, what “Benotto” frame have I picked up from my local bike shop?
I’ve searched on google quite extensively, but with no look. The closest frame, that would look somewhat similar to mine, is the one in this article “1984 Benotto Modelo 5000”, but only based on the “Benotto” livery font, that’s it.
I’ve attached a couple of pictures, but, please, let me know, if you’d require some additional ones.
Thanks a bunch in advance!
Hi Ilgvars, I really like the look of your bike. The forks look to be either painted or from a different bike. Some of the other components like the seatpost and crankset also look like they are from another bike. So it’s challenging to date. Possibly a custom build. The rear chainstays look like the modelo 2500 to 800. Please let me know what else you find about your bike here, so if others have the same frame they can identify it as well.
Apprecieta the response!
Yeah, so, just the frame is Benotto, since I decided to move on from my Gazelle Vuelta, that was a bit too large for my size (took me 6 years to realize that). The forks are from a different frame set (not sure what kind of tho), but most of the other parts (cranks, group set, shifters, stem, hubs) are Sansin Ole and were previously on my Vuelta. Seat and the seat post are also purchased separetely and did not come with the frame.
So, basically, it’s just the frame, that is Benotto and as I mentioned before have yet to find one on the internet, that would help me identify the model.
Hi Ilgvars, okay that makes sense. Everything about this bike is a bit unique. The color combo. The way the color fades. The 1980 models have a stripe fade. Even the chain stay protector is a slightly different shape. Here’s a couple possibilities. 1 is that it was a custom order frameset. So the paint and sticker combination are unique. The other is that it is a later model.
Perhaps someone else visiting this site will have more information. Best of luck with your search
I’ll get some more photos of the bike from different angles, perhaps that would help!
I’ve added some more photos of the mystery “Benotto” frame. Hope they prove to be useful!
Thanks a bunch in advance!
I don’t see any indicators of Benotto stamped in the frame. Which is surprising. You would normally see it on the seat stays. Or on the rear drop out. Possibly it’s a Modelo 700, 500 or 100. Or it’s a newer year that I’m not familiar with.
Hi Jonathan, about September 2019 I was looking for a vintage bike and while looking around the bike shop there was an unrestored golden colour Benotto bike, at the time didn’t know anything about it but the shape and its prescense very appealing. After some time looking around the shop this bike just would not let me go (LOL). So, I bought it had it fully restored with campo group set and tried to keep all parts in that era. Were you able to provide some history on this bike? Its an 850 cerial R8655.
I have photos but couldn’t attach.
Photos are the easiest. Is there a sticker on it saying the type of steel it’s made of? Also, what shape are the chain stays? Round or diamond? Does it have brazed on cable holders? Let me know.
Thanks for getting back to me, hope this link helps, serial No: R8655
Hope the photos below help, also have beore shots.
Hi Nick, it looks like it’s in fantastic condition! I like how you cleaned it up. It looks like an early 80s frame. The frames geometry is identical to the 3000. It rides like a dream. The 850 uses slightly thicker steel, so heavier. I find it very comfortable to ride. You’ll notice that the cable guides on the top tube are brazed on, so it’s between 1980-85. Do you have more info of the rear derailleur that came with the bike? Components are a great way to get an exact date on the frame itself. It’s a very good bike you have.
Johnathan, I purchased a Benotto 850 with the Sun Tours and Cherry equipment in 1983. It was ridden probably 30 miles max. It’s all original with the 83 tires, flat but still on it. It has been hanging in my garage for years and now that I’m moving again I’d like to find it a good home. Can you tell me where I should go to post it for sale?
Thanks and stay safe.
Hi Bobby, it’s really up to you. Your local bike shop may do consignment. Ebay is a good spot or Facebook marketplace.
Hey Bobby, can you post some photo’s?
Dear Jonathan, your article is simply spectacular. I was planning to restore my old school bicycle (1984 with Shimano equipment) and your article has inspired me and gave me a great reference.
Grettings from Lima – Perú!
Thanks Reynaldo! Good luck with your project. Looking forward to photos along the way
Hello, came across you wonderful page while researching an early frame I have. Sold tome as an early Bianchi. I have since discovered that it is probably an early Benotto by the lamp bracket which I believe is that of Benotto ( not Bianchi which is similar). The frame has refacing dropouts and interestingly, the number 0062 is clearly stamped on the headstock. I’d be interested to find more information on what would have been fitted and sourcing parts to build it back up again. Regards, Tim Gunn
Hi Tim, that sounds like a rare find. Sorry for the slow response, I didn’t notice the question until now. Do you have any pictures of your bicycle you can share?
I purchased my Benotto in 1983, champagne gold, Campy groupo. I had it repainted in 2018 after I found a new set of decals. This has been my daily ride since I bought it. I can’t bring it into a bike shop now with attracting the attention of the entire shop
Disassembling prior to strip and paint:
New paint and decals:
That looks incredible Tom
Love your rebuild of the 3000 series,
Doing some thing with mine BUT where do I find a set of BENOTO transfers?
Hi Mike. That’s awesome. I found a set on eBay. You may find them there as well.
Hello, I recently acquired a Benotto frame that has the diamond stays, campy dropouts, a Cinelli BB shell and cursive Benotto pantographs on the seat stays. It also has internal cable routing for the rear brake. The frame has been poorly repainted and decaled incorrectly so that is of np help. It seems like a late eighties/early nineties model- perhaps 300o, The shifters are not in the aero position as seen on the 5000s. With the Campagnolo and Cinelli drops and shell is it possible it is both a later model AND Italian made?
Hi Damon, if it’s a later model, late 80s early 90s, then it will have been made in Mexico. Not that it’s a bad thing at this time.
Jonathan, I will appreciate you advice. I am going to buy frameset of Benotto 3000 from 1987. Do you have any information if it was a crack-possible frameset or cracking concerned framesets from 1984/85 only? Best, Konrad
Hi Konrad, yes that’s correct. Thanks for contacting me directly as well, but I’ll share this here for everyone’s benefit as well. The concern was for 84/85 US market only. That said, it largely seems to be rumour based. I have yet to see evidence of a crack. However, if you did find an issue it’s easily repairable as the bottom bracket is accessible by removing the crank. Any local welder could fix a crack like this. A Benotto is a steel frame bike. So if it’s been ridden for the last 30 years without cracking it will last for a lifetime to come. The US market was Benotto’s first market from Mexico. It was likely isolated to that.
I am a vintage bike shop and am relieved to have found your site during a search to identify my 3000. It apears all original, but is equiped with Dura-Ace, and some say the diamond chain stays suggest it is a ‘De Rosa’ built? It certainly has some of the finest head tube lug filling I have seen on an italian frame.
Is an Instagram link ok https://www.instagram.com/sargentandco/ . or perhaps better resoloution here . https://www.flickr.com/photos/robsargent/albums/72157710749343268
Thanks Rob, that’s a beautiful bike. True artisans.
Jonathan, great article. I was fortunate enough to have lived overseas as a youngster when my dad brought home a gold circa 1980 Benotto bike in a kid’s size—it was a small size road racing bike with Suntour components, beautiful black felt seat and that bright blue tape on the handlebars! I rode that bike for a few years, outgrew it and, very sadly, lost track of it. A few years ago, I was in a friend’s garage and he had a Benotto hanging on the wall, which he gave me. It was originally a Benotto frame—I believe it’s Columbus Zeta steel from the 26.6 mm seatpost—which was built up at a bike shop in Landstuhl, Germany, so it’s a hodge podge of different parts. When I acquired it, I cleaned it up and substituted a lot of Shimano parts to make it once again rideable and used it to ride to work. My question is: it has the original paint and stickers, but it also has a few bad scratches, to the metal, plus the stickers are showing their age. Considering this, should I repaint it the original color and put a new set of stickers on it, or keep it with the original paint and stickers?
Nice collection of bikes you have here! I was wondering if you could give me a hand identifying some details about my bike like model and year or what to look for. I have not found much info about it.
The frame has an “Oria TT0.9” decal which I have identified as the tubing used. That and the style of the benotto stickers seems to indicate it’s a late 80s or early 90s model maybe? I am confused though because of the “Made in Italy” details as most info I found mentions Benotto moving production to Mexico in 1985. I bought the bike in Sweden so maybe they kept producing some bikes in Italy for the Italian and European market? The ofmega derailleurs seem to match the late 80s too, but of course they might not be the original ones.
Some pictures here:
Thanks in advance!
Hi Miquel, sorry for the slow response. Yes, this is a great find. It’s very possible this was made in Italy, if so it would be a 1984 model. I would be curious to hear what else you have discovered about this bicycle.
Nice compilation here. I was wondering if you had a guess at year/model of my newly acquired Benotto. Thanks for any help!
Hi Gabe, beautiful bike you have there. It has solid componentry for the year. It looks like a late 80s model. The Shimano Light Action derailleur was introduced in 1986. Also, based on the fact that it is made in Mexico, it is a 1985 model frame or later. Having the heart cutout in the bottom bracket places it as one of their earlier models. So my best guess would be that this is a 1986 or 1987 model. Wolber Super Champion wheels are good quality.
I have been a keen cyclist and rider of Benotto Bicycles since the late seventies.
I currently own an ex-team Sanson bike from 1977. It was the spare bicycle of Valerio Lualdi. Strangely it is not a “Benotto” at all, but a DeRosa. The team bikes, such as the one featured in the opening scene from “a Sunday in Hell” were all handbuilt DeRosa. They had Dubois lugs and a flat fork crown, unlike the cast lugs and sloping crown of the Benotto 3000 which were marketed as team bikes. They did though, share the diamanté chainstays familiar to the 3000 model. Something DeRosa still use. The model I have is identical to the one from the film.
I will post pos when I have the chance.
I have acquired a 1985 850 I believe. A friend of mine has been looking for a light weight 10 speed and this Benotto was traded for 2 studded mountain tires a few weeks ago. I told my friend “I have the perfect bike for you”. Little did I know what I was considering selling!
A long story short. I’m hoping you’ll befriend me and guide me through this as I quite understand what I have now. I’ll have to keep looking for a light weight 10 speed for my friend.
It’s a gem
Check the bottom bracket. Mine had the date of manufacture stamped into it. I never knew it was there until I refinished it.
Interesting. What was the date of your bicycle?
Hi there, I have a Benotto Triathlon 58cm bike purchased in London. Im think this is a Mexico model about1986 with Shimano Exage parts and Shimano bio paced cranks. Cassette 7 speed and benotto drop outs.
No tube stickers present but I was thinking possibly Ishwata tubing?. Chromed forks too. A nice close wheelbase.
Could you possibly give me some background on this model and any possible hidden problems to watch for.
I have removed the aero brakes to make this bike Erocia compliant as the bike dates are just in the required dates to ride.
Thank you. Pictures available if required.
Hi Bruce, I’m not sure if Benotto used Ishiwata tubing. I’m only familiar with their catalogues mentioning Columbus. It’s possible they were using it in the 86 range. It’s also possible that it’s Columbus Zeta tubing. I suspect it’s a nicer model given the chromed forks. These were made of higher grade steel and lighter.
1986 was the first year Benotto released their Tri bike. The geometry is the same as their road bikes. It’s a very nice bike. I love my Benotto as it’s so smooth. Benotto was well known for their geometry.
As far as concerns or hidden problems, I wouldn’t have any. By now, these bikes have proven the test of time. There were some bikes that had some brazing problems and showed cracks from when they initially moved production to Mexico. I think these bikes were mostly sold to the US market. Likely one of their first markets from Mexico. But it turned out to be a relatively safe problem and easy to fix the bottom bracket. The frame became less rigid. So if you notice any cracks around your bottom bracket I recommend taking your bike to your local metal works and have them braze it. It’s very easy for an experienced welder to do.
Have fun at the Eroica!
Did I mention the tubing was `aero` as in the top tube is oval in the centre. I have good pictures of the bike but am not sure were to paste on this site. The bike may be of interest to you as a late model.
Your right though the bike is very nice to ride. I currently use it on my turbo trainer but on the road only in the summer (this is one of 5 bikes I own, all differing makes)
Could I forward you pictures?
Just was lucky enough to pick up a, 1977 Benotto 1600 Bike, but wanted to ask your expert opinion? Please see some pics attached of the bike in question.
The rear derailleur cable is on the top of the chainstay so I gathered it was a 1977-1979 but am confused about the cable routing on the top tube?
Ryan Willcocks (A Pround new owner in Calgary, Alberta, Canada)
Hi Ryan, thanks for your question. I’m getting an error when trying to view the photo. Do you have another link?
Hi, hopefully you can help me out!
I see this bike, I find it hard to determine what model it is…
A lot of Benotto details are there, but no hart in the bottem bracket and this logo/decal style I have only seen it on the 1984 5000, but that has oval rear fork tubes? Is it a 3000? Is it a Benotto?
Hope you can help!
Hi Freek, this model is newer than a lot of the bikes that I’m familiar with. It’s hard to tell from the photo. The chrome forks look like 2500 and above. The oval chain stays would imply that it’s 2500 and lower. Also, it would depend on the type of rear dropouts, if they are Benotto or Campanelli. Hope that helps.
I have a Benotto modello 800 which i would like to sell. Is there a market for this model?
Hi Theodore, there is a market. I have a Benotto 800 which I love. The reason is that the modello 800 uses a strong steel that has really sound lug brazing. It has the identical geometry to the higher end modello 3000. The alignment of the bottom bracket makes a great bike for fixed gear or commuting. I’m currently in process of restoring mine.
The last frame picture in your post is of Benotto 3500 (SLX).
Other than that –
Do you know the spec of late 80s benottos? are they still using nisi rims, super record groupset? are they using O.M.A.S components?
Hi Jonathan. Thanks to all your pieces I think I have been able to identify the Benotto I have as a Modelo 1500 or 1600. Happy to share pics if interested. It is still original as he got it from the store in mid 1980’s.
Do you have any ideas regarding identification of model and year for this Benotto frame?
The frame has a Columbus SPX decal and has very clear 13 or i3 stamp on the BB. Could this be an Italian 3000 model? The seat post diameter appears to be 27mm. Campagnolo fork/rear dropouts, diamond chain stays, heart shaped BB with bridge.
The frame had a mix match of components but patent ’84 Campagnolo Super Record derailliers with Superbe Pro BB, Simplex retro friction DT shifters.
Here is a link to the photo’s https://photos.google.com/album/AF1QipPtnZXSajPJzX4BNXLgaIHSzd_88lQVevTGXAdE
Hi Steven, thanks for your question about your Benotto. It sounds like an amazing bike. Sorry for the slow response I’ve had to rebuild this site and I’ve had lots of comments in that time.
Do you have another link to a photo? It seems this link doesn’t exist any longer.
From what you’ve told me it sounds like it is an 80’s model somewhere between 1984-1987. Often they used the previous years components on a bike.
The Diamond chainstays would indicate a Modelo 2500 or 3000.
Double check the inner seat post diameter. If it is 27mm however, it means that the SLX sticker is wrong and it is a Modelo 2000, if it is 27.2mm then it is most likely a 2500 or 3000.
But I wouldn’t expect the sticker to be wrong. The highest end steel frames Columbus SL, Columbus SLX and Reynolds 531 had 27.2mm seat post diameters.
Also, if it is an SLX frame then it is probably newer than an 85 model. Possibly a 1987 year.
Hoped that helped.
Thank you very much for the info. I have since sold the frame on as it is too big for me.
Hello, mi name is ray, I have 1984 benotto mod. 5000 turbo, I need the bottom bracket but I don’t know what is the size for that bike, thanks !!!
Wow that’s a nice bike. Benotto’s used the Italian size of 70mm wide bottom brackets. This was the same for Italian and Mexican made models.
Have a great day
Any way to tell if my Benotto 850 was made in Italy vs made in Mexico? I’m not sure what year it is but I problably purchased it in 1985. Candy apple red – Paris Roubaix model.
By 1983/84 Benotto had moved production of all their bicycles except the Modelo 5000 to Mexico. So most probably it was made in Mexico. On the very off-chance that it was made in Italy, look to see if you can see an I on the bottom bracket or sticker Made in Italy.
Someone offer me a (seems to be) benotto 850, but it has columbus TSX decal on it and no heart shaped hole under the BB. I find it pretty odd, what do you think ?
It’s likely a newer model Benotto made in the early 1990s. TSX was a good steel made by Columbus, higher end than even the SLX tubing. Like the SP, SL, MS, SPX, SLX steels it is made of Cyclex steel. TSX is superbutted CrMO with continuous helical reinforcements. It was short lived as it was replaced by PRX ribbed tubing.
I just became the owner on what I would guess is a ’70s series Benotto Modelo 1500. I’m not an expert, but it looks similar to the ’70s Modelo 800 in your photo shoot. I has a Campy Record groupo with 6 cogs. The only thing on the bike that appears to be a serial number is 251. I think I’ll take it to a locale bike shop and have it gone through.
Brian K Crowder
That’s amazing! The easiest way to be sure of the model is by measuring the inner diameter of the seat tube. The diameter is different depending on the type of steel used.
Without knowing more, I would agree with you that it is likely a Modelo 1500 or 2000 as it has Campy Record Groupo components.
Thanks for sharing your find!
I think you probablly know this but Mexico is the promised land if you want to find vintage pre-90’s Benotto bicycles in good shape.
Benotto used to have a workshop in Mexico and thats where most of Benotto 3000 (Águila de Tachira) models were manufactured.
In fact you can still meet some of the artisans that worked for benotto on that time if you happen to come to Mexico City.
Anyway if you want to buy an original vintage Benotto with Campagnolo ends and (probably) a full Campagnolo groupset, Mexico is where you want to be. Just last week someone offered me a 1984 Benotto Pista 2700 bicycle for 20 tousend pesos (about 1.200US dollar).
Nice Blog you have!
Hi, I’m Carol from Jacksonville Florida. Just picked up a Benotto and thought I’d send a few picks for your archives. I’m looking forward to restoring this one. I found your sight and have determined it to be an early 80’s after reading your posts. Think it’s an early 80’s 3000, if you think not please let me know, thanks and God Bless
p.s. Think I’ll post on face book and you can down load them from there, thanks adain for all your efforts
Thank you for sharing your Benotto I think many people will appreciate that. And sorry for the slow response I’ve had to rebuild this site. What was the link for the Facebook post?
My name is Sergio Salgado, I’m from Mexico
Please I need your help to identify my Benotto Frame, this frame was purchased to in the early 90’s
Only I have this info about my frame
the seat post diameter is 26.6
the dropouts are Gipiemme
You can identify the model?
I share you the picasa link: https://goo.gl/photos/WMMNewW8MEvkqY9W9
Thank you in advance
Hi Sergio, thanks for your question. I’m not that familiar with newer Benotto frames, but maybe there is someone here who will be able to provide some direction on the model. If I find any thing I will be sure to let you know.
Send me a pic of the Bottom Brack Shell ( Caja de Pedalier). There should be a product number.
I am from Portugal, near Lisbon, and have a great passion for bicycles. I am thinking about to buy Benotto but I cannot identify the model. As far as I know the owner buy the frame and equipped it with components that are not in the original models. In this link there are several photos of the bike: http://1drv.ms/1Rd9qnW I will appreciate very much if anyone could help me identify this Benotto. Thanks, João Veiga
I am giving a try here to find out the exact model and year of Benotto frame I found in my local bike shop. It has no stickers and most probably it was over-painted hundred times. The only reason why I know that it is Benotto frame is the engraving on the top of the seatstay.
First of all, it has a heart cutout on the bottom bracket. Secondly, it has “R9485” marking on the bottom bracket. Thirdly, the frame has cable guides on the bottom of the bottom bracket. Additionally, the top tube has also cable guides on the top of the tube.
It would be so nice, if some expert could help me to identify this frame, I would really like to renovate it.
Hi Archie, I will do my best, and I’m sure others might pitch in as well. Upload your pictures to Google Picassa https://picasa.google.com/ and then share the link here. If you could take pictures of the bottom bracket, chain stays, mounting points and front forks that would help.
Hello , I am restoring a frame and I could not identify it, as I can upload pictures to chat ?, greetings from México.
Hi Salvador, good luck with your restoration. Please upload photos to Google Picasa https://picasa.google.com/ and share the link here in the comments. That way I (or someone else) can try to help identify your bike. Have a great day.
Some useful info to identify the frame would be:
1. Seatpost size
2. If the dropouts (puntas) read Benotto or Campagnolo.
3. The shape of the chainstays, diamond or oval shape.
4. Weight of the frame
Hi Jonathan. I just picked up a Benotto from a friend. He did not have a lot of details about the bike, but I am guessing it may be from the mid to late 1980s. It has Shimano 105 hubs, brakes, friction shifters, derailleurs. My friend had it repainted and it is close to what looks like a champaign color that I have seen on line for other Benotto bikes. The handle bars say 3 TTT and made in Italy. The rims appear to be original, Wolbers, Made in France. The only number I could find was stamped on the bottom bracket…381. I am very excited about getting this bike out on the road, and it appears ready to go. I put close to 2,000 miles on a lugged, 1991 Bianchi this year, but this bike may mean the Bianchi will spend more time hanging upside down in my garage. Any thoughts on the model, vintage or other details based on the description would be greatly appreciated. I could also email you photos if that would help. Jim
Hi Jim, yes a photo will help. I do know that the 1987 Modelo 1800 was sold with the Shimano 105 Groupset, Cinelli bars and Columbus SL frame. In 1987 the 3000, 2500 and 1800 had the Columbus SL frame. So that would be a really nice bike. Would need photos to confirm.
Jonathan. Thank you for the quick
reply. Can you provide an email
address so I can send some photos? Jim
Hi Jim, sent you an email. Cheers
I have a Bennotto 850
With all shimano 600
Magic wheel set
Bb stamped with 242.
Hi Gord, the Shimano 600 groupset was introduced in 1980-83. Likely it will put your bike in that age range, based on the fact that in 1984-86 they were using different components. The Shimano 600 was a high-end groupset. At that time the Shimano Dura-Ace and 600 were considered “high-end”. Later Shimano put all their R&D into Dura-Ace, the highest quality level. The 850 was an entry level club racer. You’ve got a great bike. Benottos are pretty rare.
Hi! thanks for the information about Benotto´s Bikes. I have a great bike, but I can´t know the year. If you want to help me y would be thankful. Sorry my english is not good. Maybe contact whit me on email, I´m from Bolivia. Thanks.
If you post the pictures on Google Picasa and share the link in the comments, it will help to identify your bike. Cheers
Hi, I just got a Modelo 3000, the weird thing is it has two holes for internal cabling in the top tube, no cable guides or anything n the top tube, just those holes. They look pretty crude and i was thinking they were homemade, i was thinking of covering them. do you have any info on that? Thanks.
Hi Oscar, yes those holes would most likely be an after market addition. You could weld them then grind them down after. Will be as good as new.
Hello, I want to restore a benotto and need the color code for champagne colour, where can I find it? thanks.
Hi Joseph, this is a great question. I actually need the color code as well to complete my restoration so I’m on the look out as well. Will keep you updated if I find it. Hopefully someone else might know.
In your exposition you missed the Benotto giroruota from 1933 if you want to give me your email address i can send you the picture of this bike
Yes, that would be great. I’ll send you an email. Cheers
Just rescued a Benotto at the local dump. In rough shape, rust on the frame and components. No idea what year it is. It has Suntour Honor components. Color is an iridescent green. Made in Italy tag and Benotto head piece. Shifters are by the handlebar stem not on the down tube. Nice, large winged nuts on front wheel. Any ideas on vintage? The vintage bike sites I looked at do not have much on Benotto bikes.
Hi Walter, that’s a really great find. With what you’ve described, and the fact that it has a made in Italy sticker, it’s likely a mid 1970’s model. I did some quick research on the Suntour Honor components and these were also used in the mid 70s. You can check the date stamps on the Suntour components to confirm.
hello there, I just went deep into the bowels of my crawl space and pulled out my benotto which has been collecting dust since about 1990…. I started to think that I would like to clean it up and get it back on the road…. came across your article(s) and am now intrigued and curious as to whether my modelo 850 may actually be one that was manufactured in Italy… it is exactly as the blue 1983 model above. (not nearly as in good shape as that but the same stickers and handlebars)… how do I get you a picture?
Hi Miles, it could very well be from Italy. From what I understand the only reliable indicator is if it has a “Made In Italy” sticker on the bike. The frame, geometry, components and steel used was the same in both Mexico and Italy. So it’s almost impossible to verify without a sticker.
Hi to all! I bought for my girlfriend an Benotto classic. I don’t know what kind of frame it is, maybe you can help. I think its an “modelo” Rigato of 1985 but i’m not sure. The material is Columbus Cromor. Do you have an idea? I have ofcourse pictures of the bike, and if you want you can use them om your side. Thanks in advance! Best regards Marco
Hi Marco, that’s awesome. Do you have a link to the photos?
Hi, I bought a gently used Benotto modelo 2000 around 1985 in the SF Bay Area. It was won by a woman bicyclist. Unfortunately it is in rough shape having sat in a garage for years. Our local bike shop thinks it will cost about $300 to tune up. I am thinking of selling it to someone who would enjoy it as much as I did in the 1980s. Would appreciate your advice. Thanks, Bob
Hi Bob, sorry for the late response. Sounds like an amazing bike.
They don’t build bikes like this anymore. And a model 2000 is a really nice bike. It may be worth taking it to a local shop, one that is a little less expensive, and having them fix it up for $60-$120. It’s truly a beautiful machine.
Hi MY name is Edward Ian from Puerto Rico and I have a benotto bike I what to now how can I now the yere of the benotto bike and colecteble price it’s on perfect shape and have all it’s components….
First off, welcome! Next, there are a couple ways to determine the year of the Benotto. Have a look at my the post here. It shows you how I identified my bike. http://machiine.com/2015/benotto-bicycle-restoration-how-to-identify-a-vintage-benotto-bike-frames-year-and-model-part-2/
since last year I’m a proud owner of a (presumably) early 80es 800 dilletante in classical team design. It is mostly equipped with first gen. Shimano 600 or Arabesque components. I’d like to contribute some pictures (don’t know where to send them).
I am looking forward on this documentation project, because indeed there only are few and contradictory information in the web available.
I also can contribute some however unfortunate information from a former Benotto head of sales in North America: http://h1bpositive.blogspot.de/2010/01/bikes-i-love-benotto-modelo-3000-c1980.html
(see in the comments, hope that is just a fake).
Kind regards from Germany
Hi Jean-Paul. That would be great. I will send you a direct email. Thanks for that information, took a look at the comment, sounds a bit like a disgruntled employee but insightful.
the story has some truth in so far, that apparently once some high-end Benottos (possibly including Moser’s famous 3000 from ‘A Sunday in Hell’) were made by De Rosa: https://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/640007298
Do you know for how much you can sell a 1984 benotto 850 all original?
Well it depends on the condition of your bike and where you live. Benottos have steadily gone up in value over the past 10 years. The Paris-Roubaix is no exception as it’s collectable. It was an entry level Benotto at the time. The frame is the same geometry as the higher-end 2000 and 3000 models, but the components are not as high-end. Also, it has columbus Zeta tubing which makes a good frame (stiff and strong), but slightly heavier than Columbus Aelle or SL. Any frame made of Columbus tends to be more desirable. Overall this is an excellent vintage bike. So the price range for a Paris-Roubaix will be somewhere between $350-$800+ depending on condition and the demand for classic bikes in your area. The champagne colour is the most collectable because in 1977 Franscesco Moser won the world title on a champagne coloured Benotto Modelo 3000.
Hi, just found your website when a new project I just acquired. After some of your post I believe this is an early 80’s 3000, if you think different let me know. Here is a link to some pics for your archives. This bike seems to be original, in need of restoration. I’m looking forward to the project and am open to any tips, I’ve enjoyed reading the posts and wish you well, Thanks and God Bless you and your efforts,,,,,,, http://s446.photobucket.com/user/WCDJ/library/
Hi, Jonathan….i wonder if youre still active here…since the last post was last year. Im a proud owner of a Benotto 3000…having bought it in 1980 and Always kept my bike indoor…. still looks great after 36 years…. i got my bike with loose components mainly Campagnolo super record except the brakes. I try to upgrade my bike trying to secure a campagnolo super record brake set and a pair of new Vittoria tubes…..by the way….my benotto 3000 frame is in pearl white with chrome fork which i find exceptionally beautiful in my eyes and seldom such color even on the net….